Rep James Lankford says the NDAA is OK

Kaye Beach

Jan. 5, 2011

I heard Congressman Lankford speak about the NDAA on Wed.  According to him, the bill was fixed in conference committee and we do not need to be concerned that section 1021 and 1022 could be used to indefinitely detain or otherwise deny the legal rights of anyone on US soil.  Others are not so sure.

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012 was signed into law on Dec 32, 2011

Senator Tom Coburn is the only member of Oklahoma’s congressional  delegation that voted against the measure.

Sec 1021 and 1022 are the controversial sections being discussed and they can be found beginning on page 265.

Here is Rep. Lankford’s explanation about the NDAA  from Tuesday, Jan 3rd made on Facebook in response to constituent questions about the bill;

“People are using how this bill was written from the Senate to make people beleive that it was not changed. I was in multiple meetings and research on this bill and how it was changed from the original to the final before I signed on. It has multiple protections built into the bill – all of the accusations on it are based on what it “could mean” or “might mean” when the bill explicitly states that it does not mean US citizens and we even included a section to state specifically if any US law enforcement has jurisdiction, they would have pre-eminence over the military – it is intended to defend against foreign terrorism, not open the door to military detainment or trials for American citizens. I would encourage anyone to actually read the bill, not the stories about the bill to get the real facts. Especially read pages 655-657. Also, no bill, no law can change the bill or rights and the Constitution – only a change in the Constitution can do that. People who claim that this law will take away Constitutional rights fail to understand the primacy of the Constitution. I am also concerned about our liberty, but I am also concerned when people use fear instead of facts. Thanks for your honest question.”

Jim Babka from  DownsizeDC gives his perspective on the NDAA and explores the potential of this bill.

Babka says;

* Can the President have the military come and arrest you? Yes!
* Can he (or she) send you to a military tribunal for trial or just hold you indefinitely in a military facility, without charges? Yes!

NDAA: Open Season for the Police State

Congress just passed, and the President just signed, a bill that gives legal authority to the President to kidnap and perpetually imprison persons, including American citizens, without the benefit of due process.

Members of Congress, in the days leading up to the vote, tried to assure their constituents that they have nothing to fear — that the bill doesn’t apply to Americans.

Some were lying. Most were deceived.

Now, I don’t want to imply that Barack Obama plans to sweep up every one of his critics (or even a select few) because of statements they’ve uttered publicly. That is overstatement. The law doesn’t permit that. But consider the following scenario…

You object to the way the Federal Leviathan State is run. You gather, every other Tuesday, with others who share your values. We’ll call your fictional group the Constitution League (CL).

One night, a new fellow shows up. He’s frustrated and outspoken. He complains that the time for meetings is over. Something must be done — something that will “get their attention.” You’re uncomfortable with his remarks but unsure how to respond.

You hope he never returns, and he doesn’t.

What you don’t know, until months later, is that one of our CL colleagues, the chapter Vice President, followed the vocal man out to the parking lot. The two exchanged email addresses and phone numbers. Then, your local VP reached out to a third man, a member of a CL chapter in the nearest big city. The three met regularly. They plotted and executed their own terrorist plot on a U.S. Government facility.

Now, your group meeting was the place they met. The Vice President used his CL email account. CL is all over the news. CL is now, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist group.

And you? Well, you’ve donated to the terrorist organization. You’ve participated in its meetings. The night this angry man walked in, you didn’t call the authorities.

* Can the President have the military come and arrest you? Yes!
* Can he (or she) send you to a military tribunal for trial or just hold you indefinitely in a military facility, without charges? Yes!

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6 responses to “Rep James Lankford says the NDAA is OK

  1. Howard T. Lewis III

    i guess Lankford has the same gay bondage and torture sadism fetish as Bush41,Bush43, Obama and most of congress.

  2. Nationwide NDAA 2012 Congressional Protest is Feb, 3rd. Please spread the word.

    http://www.facebook.com/events/335643799778967/

  3. Yes, Virginai, NDAA 2012 Does Detain Americans

  4. It is very important to note that Coburn voted on multiple occasions to keep those provisions in the bill. So in my opinion, he voted for the indefinite detainment and denial of due process of American citizens. He voted against the bill as a whole on spending issues.

  5. …”no bill, no law can change the bill or rights and the Constitution – only a change in the Constitution can do that. People who claim that this law will take away Constitutional rights fail to understand the primacy of the Constitution.”

    With all due respect, Mr. Lankford, and I’m not being sarcastic, the one who either doesn’t understand, or doesn’t bother to follow the Constitution here is the POTUS. He has demonstrated that on numerous occasions, and I perceive this NDAA issue as another way for him to demonstrate as much any time he chooses.

  6. Since the document only goes to 565 pages, I could not find pages 655-657 as referenced by Rep. Lankford’s response. Any ideas which “section” he was referring to?

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