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‘It’s going to get out of your control Oklahoma’ Howard Houchen testifies on REAL ID

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Kaye Beach

Nov 19, 2015

Yesterday Rep. Bob Cleveland and Rep. Lewis Moore held a public meeting making further study on the question of whether Oklahoma should repeal its 2007 prohibition of participating in the federal REAL ID Act of 2005.

The meeting was held in the new House conference room at the capitol which is a large comfortable conference room with modern sound and video equipment which is important as many Oklahomans who are unable to travel long distances or take a day off of work, expected to be able to access this meeting online.  Unfortunately, the meeting was not available online.

Anyone  who turned to media outlets to find out what happened were likely  disappointed as the majority of reports consisted of nothing more than briefly restating talking points about REAL ID enforcement, reinforcing fears by reminding the public that they won’t be able to fly in a year without a REAL ID.  (Which isn’t true and was covered at length in yesterday’s meeting.)

The study was an interesting one that brought to the fore quite a bit of new information and issues which have not been publicly discussed before.

After the meeting yesterday while casually communicating on social media, I asked Howard, who was there and testified, what he thought was the most important information that came out of the meeting.

Here was his take on it (I did change the formatting of his reply for easier readability):

There were more than one.

  1. The admittance, finally, by DPS that it CURRENTLY possesses a Facial Recognition Database.

  2. The confirmation by US Congressman Steve Russel’s rep that REAL ID requirements for air travel will NOT BE enforced till 2020.

  3. That admittance into Federal Bldgs for virtually all the reasons almost all of us would have to visit one will NOT BE restricted if someone does not have a REAL ID compliant ID.

  4. That NO ONE could answer the question how REAL ID can/should/will make us safer.

  5. No one could seem to even guess at how much this will cost.

I admit that am hardly an unbiased observer of the proceedings but I do have the audio recording of the event and am entirely capable of transcribing the audio.  I will do my best to give you an accurate summary of what happened at the REAL ID Study yesterday.

Testifying in opposition to REAL ID was Howard Houchen, who earned his Masters Degree in National Security Studies, myself, Kaye Beach, and former Oklahoma state Rep. Charles Key, who authored the 2007 House legislation to prohibit REAL ID.

Also present and on the agenda to speak was the Commissioner of Public Safety, Michael Thompson, Captain Randy Rogers OHP, Director of Driver License Services Jeff Hankins.

In this post, I am going to cover the testimony of the first speaker, Howard Houchen.

Howard Houchen began by explaining that his degree includes a focus on Homeland Security and back in 2001 while he was working on his degree, the big question was how our country would balance security and civil liberties.  He says that within a few years it became apparent to him that our government had chosen to throw civil liberties by the wayside citing the REAL ID Act of 2005 as a major indicator.

Quoting well know security researcher, Bruce Schneier, Houchen tells listeners “If you think technology can solve your security problems you don’t understand the problems and you don’t understand the technology.” 

While he agrees that the original intentions behind REAL ID were noble, Houchen says it has morphed into something else entirely citing, for example, that the mobile biometric technology is a 32.8 billion dollar industry and that the biometric technology industry across the board is worth an untold amount of money.

Houchen says biometric ID is “a data grab” and explains that the UK sought to implement a national biometric identity system in 2006 and scrapped in 2011.  He says that according to many members of Parliament the effort was nothing more than a costly folly, noting that in addition to the system providing no increase in security that could justify the cost, it was also rejected as an unwelcome intrusion into people’s personal liberty.  According to Houchen, other countries are having issues with their biometric identification programs as well including Israel, whose program is voluntary.

Then speaking loudly and clearly, Houchen states, “There is something that is being missed with REAL ID…and that is the fact that the biometrics that are collected as a part of the REAL ID Act ARE going to be shared.  . .  that is a part of the federal REAL ID Act.”  Further explaining Houchen says, “They are going to be shared so that they can be compared, without yours and my consent, by the way.”

Houchen takes issue with this on the grounds of the Fourth Amendment which guarantees us the right to be free of unwarranted searches and seizures.

“What happens when the biometrics are breached?” asks Houchen. Who then tells the panel about his experience as one of the 21 million Americans who had their most personal information hacked in the recent federal OPM breach, revealing that additionally that he was among the 5.1 million subset of victims of this hack that had their fingerprints stolen as well.

The OPM is offering victims three years of identity theft protection, which according to Houchen, is of little use.  “Biometrics once stolen is not like a social security number, it’s not like a password, it’s gone forever, warning that, Oklahoma might have, right now, a good secure system to keep those biometrics but it’s going to get out of your control Oklahoma, because you have to share those biometrics.” 

Houchen explains that he has lived and traveled abroad extensively including countries where, at the time, it was very dangerous for Americans all of which and more was in his OPM file.  We don’t know for sure who hacked the OPM but the federal government suspects the Chinese. Houchen expressed concern about future travel, especially to Russia, since his personal information was hacked.

Houchen ends by saying, “I believe the Oklahoma legislature can and should end this employment of poor civic hygiene by forcing yet another, no-choice, federal solution on Oklahomans.  We demand and deserve a choice.”

The reference to civic hygiene comes from another oft cited quote made by security guru, Bruce Schneier who said, “It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state.”


Important! REAL ID Study at the Okla. State Capitol Wed. Nov. 18th at 9AM


Kaye Beach
Nov. 12, 2015

The REAL ID Study is finally confirmed!

A public meeting has been called to give legislators and constituents the opportunity to ask questions about the REAL ID Act.

The REAL ID meeting  will be held at the Oklahoma capitol on Nov. 18th at 9am in Room 206.

I am grateful to Rep. Bob Cleveland and Rep. Lewis Moore who took the initiative and made the arrangements for this important meeting.

I am very honored to have been invited to speak about REAL ID at this meeting. I will be speaking alongside two men I admire greatly –  former state Rep. Charles Key (who was the House author on our state’s REAL ID prohibition law) and my good friend, Howard Houchen, award winning K95.5 KITX AM radio show host.

The reason for the sudden interest in this decade-old federal law is that two state Senators have vowed to repeal the Oklahoma law prohibiting the state’s participation in the controversial REAL ID Act.
You can read the state statute prohibiting participation in REAL ID here

Biometric ID is problematic enough but the REAL ID Act compounds the privacy, security and liberty issues of what is,  at the moment still a state held biometric identification database. The REAL ID Act requires all state DMV database to be connected which means the data will be accessed and used widely probably in ways many of us have not even imagined.

If you are an Oklahoman who has questions about REAL ID, it is critical that you attend this meeting.

Tonight on Axxiom For Liberty Live! Privacy is the Antidote to Surveillance, Guests David Slane and Donovan Farrow

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Kaye Beach
June 14, 2013
AxXiom For Liberty Live!  6-8 PM Central
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Privacy is the antidote to surveillance and if you think about it, the balance of power between citizens and their government  has a lot to do with what is seen and unseen.

The Balance of Power Privacy

We want a fig leaf on the government and a fur coat on us but right now, it is obviously the other way around.  Privacy is worth protecting and not because we are doing anything wrong (the vast majority of the many millions under suspicion surveillance are ordinary law abiding people!)  but because this dragnet that has been cast over us has, and will continue to upset the balance of power that keeps We The People free!

So this show will be focused on privacy issues not because we want to take a bubble bath but because the structure of a free society demands it.

David Slane, David Slane and Associates

Because of my privacy advocacy and Mr. Slanes legal expertise,  our paths have often intersected.  I am so glad to finally get the opportunity to  have a real conversation with him.

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David Slane is an Oklahoma Criminal Defense Attorney and native Oklahoman recognized as an expert in the law.  He works as the Legal Analyst for several OKC TV Stations and often weighs in on matters regarding privacy and civil liberties.  Website for David Slane and Associates

For example, on May 17, Slane  publicly raises an important question regarding the mysterious fee increase for Oklahoma driver’s licenses  – are we funding further implementation of the Federal Real ID Act? (which is prohibited by Oklahoma law)  The Dept. of Public Safety was conveniently unable to respond to that question at the time of airing and to date, Oklahoman’s still don’t know exactly what it is the fee hike is paying for exactly.

Also; Fox 25 Covers Consumer Concerns About Driver’s License Scanning, April 7, 2012

And David Slane has also been called upon to address the drone versus privacy issue; Oklahoma Researchers Test Drones That Can Detect Guns, April 8, 2013

And on the topic of  Automatic License Plate Readers (one of my favorite technologies to despise!), David Slane says;

“I think it’s an invasion of your privacy,” said attorney David Slane. “You’re driving down the street and they’re reading your license plate. Each day we see a new thing happening involving our rights and if we don’t stop somewhere, there aren’t going to be any rights left.”
Read more: http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/okc/Some-say-new-police-technology-is-invasion-of-privacy/-/11777584/15176922/-/cuif7w/-/index.html#ixzz2WE4y22ff


**Side note: If you follow David on Twitter you will get the benefit of being first in the know regarding many major Oklahoma news stories.  (I check his tweets often for that very reason)

Tonight,  we  will get David’s thoughts on the legalities of  biometric ID, drones and NSA spying. 

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Government Spying – yes! We are MAD!

And that emoticon guy doesn’t really do our outrage justice.

It’s really more like this!


As you can imagine, Howard and I have plenty to say about the recent revelations that the NSA is indeed indescrimaely collecting personal data on millions of Americans.  Yes – We are frustrated and angry!  This is a good thing.  The worst thing would be to feel overwhelmed, intimidated and to fall silent because that is exactly the effect that  government surveillance is intended produce.  We have to push back now while we still can and we need to be empowered to protect our personal information.

While there is no 100% method to protecting your data, there are some simple changes of habit we can adopt and many tools available that can diminish our vulnerability to government spies and data hoarders.

Donovan Farrow, Alias Forensics

We are excited to introduce Donovan Farrow.  Donovan  has expertise in the ways of the internet and the secret travels of data, to give us just some of the most basic and essential tips to protect our privacy.

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Donovan is the founder and owner of Alias Forensics which is a digital forensic company located in Oklahoma City.  Donovan is a computer forensic examiner.   That means is plain language, he’s the computer whisperer.  Donovan can take digital data that would be gobbledy-gook to most of us and translate these data for us.  Donovan often takes his knowledge to the courts where he is called upon to ensure the digital data that is being presented  in court was collected with integrity and  that it is factually correct. He is an interpreter.

I have heard horror stories about people sent up the river for an illegal image or information on their computer that they had no knowledge of.  Donovan can find out where the offending information actually came from and how it got there in the first place so the innocent might have a fighting chance. This is probably a shameful oversimplification but hopefully you get the picture.

Be sure to note the call in number below because you will want to take advantage of the opportunity to ask our two expert guests some questions!

After tonight’s show, AxXiom For Liberty, will be taking a two moth hiatus –But when we come back we will be giving some real attention to practical solutions to bolster our opacity and increase government and corporate transparency.

Your questions or comments are always welcome!
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Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty Live Mark Lerner, Real ID/Biometric Expert on Biometric ID in Immigration Reform Bill

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Kaye Beach

May 17, 2013

Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty Live with Kaye Beach and Howard Houchen  6-8 PM Central – International Biometric ID for All if Immigration Reform Bill Passes
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There is much conflicting information being bandied about regarding the immigration reform bill (.744, the ‘Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act’)

Let’s clear the fog.

Mark Lerner is the co-founder of The Constitutional Alliance, and the nation’s leading expert on biometrics and the Real ID Act.  He will tell us exactly what is and isn’t in the bill and what it all means for us.  Don’t miss this opportunity to get the straight truth about S.744!

Howard and I will also be discussing a variety of important topics and taking your calls.

Your questions or comments are always welcome!
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Your photo in your state driver’s license or ID card IS a Biometric

Mark Lerner explains:

Biometric is defined as: Measurements of the body. There are both physiological and behavioral biometrics.  For the sake of this document the focus will be on facial recognition and photographs.

There has been a great deal of conversation and equal amount of confusion about whether a photograph of an individual is a biometric.   The answer is “yes”.  Whether the photograph is an analog (old Polaroid photos) or a digital photograph, a photograph is a biometric.  The question becomes why are digital facial images/photographs now used instead of the older analog photos that were used on driver’s licenses and other identification documents?  The simple answer is the accuracy of the matching or comparison between one photograph and another is greatly increased when working with digital facial images.

One way to examine the question of whether a photograph is a biometric is by looking at photographs and fingerprints.  It is widely accepted to the point of being undisputed, that a fingerprint is a biometric.  Consider that when a person places a finger on a ink pad and then places that same finger on a piece of paper, the result is a fingerprint on the piece of paper.  Now let’s look at a photograph.  The photograph of a person’s face the equivalent of fingerprint, only the photograph is a representation of a person’s face instead of their finger tip.

Just as there are fingerprints that are not of sufficient quality to allow for computer automated comparisons, the same is true of photographs.  It is for this reason that we see standards for the collection of both fingerprints and photographs.  These “standards” are the minimum acceptable standards for the computer automated analysis/comparison.

The question of whether a photograph is in itself a biometric is especially important today because of the use of facial recognition software.  Facial recognition (software) in its simplest terms is described as follows:

Facial recognition systems are computer-based security systems that are able to automatically detect and identify human faces. These systems depend on a recognition algorithm, such as eigenface or the hidden Markov model. The first step for a facial recognition system is to recognize a human face and extract it fro the rest of the scene. Next, the system measures nodal points on the face, such as the distance between the eyes, the shape of the cheekbones and other distinguishable features. These nodal points are then compared to the nodal points computed from a database of pictures in order to find a match. Obviously, such a system is limited based on the angle of the face captured and the lighting conditions present. New technologies are currently in development to create three-dimensional models of a person’s face based on a digital photograph in order to create more nodal points for comparison. However, such technology is inherently susceptible to error given that the computer is extrapolating a three-dimensional model from a two-dimensional photograph.  http://epic.org/privacy/facerecognition/

Today in the United States and in other countries there has been a great deal of discussion about “facial recognition” in particular and more generally “surveillance”.

It is not widely known that all states in the United States are “capturing” a digital facial image/photograph that is facial recognition compatible.   Real ID compliant and non-Real ID compliant states use the same standard for the digital facial image/photograph capture.  Every state works with AAMVA (American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators).  AAMVA has adopted the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) standard that is required by the Real ID Act (page 68, footnote 17, Notice of Proposed Rule Making, Real ID Act 2005).  In addition, the vendors who have been awarded state driver’s license contracts have adopted the same standard as called for in the Real ID Act 2005.

The following is the wording that articulates the standard for AAMVA, the vendors who have been awarded state driver’s license contracts and the Real ID Act 2005.  This wording is taken from page 68, footnote 17 of the Notice of Proposed Rule Making for the Real ID Act 2005.

“The relevant ICAO standard is ICAO 9303 Part 1 Vol. 2, specifically ISO/IEC 19794-5 – Information technology -Biometric data interchange formats – Part 5: Face image data, which is incorporated into ICAO 9303.”

In conclusion, there should no longer be a question in anyone’s mind that the photographs of a person’s face which are contained in every respective state Department of Motor Vehicle photo database is a biometric.

Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty Live! 6-8 PM Narconon in Our Schools, Gov. Ed Money Pit and Loopy Legislation

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Kaye Beach

May 10, 2013

Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty with Kaye Beach and Howard Houchen Narconon in Our Schools,  Gov. Ed Money Pit  and Loopy Legislation

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We are going to cover a lot of ground tonight.

First up are Colin Henderson and David Love,  returning guests to AxXiom For Liberty.  Colin and David are two untiring activists seeking to expose the deceptive and dangerous practices of Narconon and Scientology.

Colin Henderson sought help for his addiction at Narconon Arrowhead, a drug rehabilitation facility located in Canadian Oklahoma, in 2007.  He quickly became a critic of Narconon for their practices which he says are both deceptive and dangerous.

David Love, originally from British Columbia, was both a client and a staffer at the Narconon rehabilitation facility in Trois-Rivieres, half way between Montreal and Quebec City. He left in disgust taking with him masses of documentation on fraud and abuse in Narconon (NN) Trois-Rivieres (TR) facility in 2009. On April 17, 2012, Quebec health officials ordered the Narconon in Trois-Rivières to close saying that Narconon’s methods were dangerous for patients and violated Quebec’s health and safety criteria governing rehabilitation centers.

Colin and David will get us up to speed on the latest news regarding Narconon and help shed light on some of Scientology’s more insidious practices such as the one Howard Houchen encountered recently.

Narconon is a Scientology based drug rehabilitation program with facilities located worldwide including the state of Oklahoma.  Scientology has many fronts but all roads seem to lead gaining more recruits and money to fill the coffers of the church of Scientology.  Even so, you would not expect to find a trace of Scientology in a public school in the sleepy little town of Hugo Oklahoma.  Howard knows better.  He is going to explain how Narconon came to his child’s school and what he did about it.

Brandon Dutcher, OCPA

We will also get to hear Howard’s interview with Brandon Dutcher, the Vice President of Policy at OCPA (Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs) an Oklahoma individual liberty, free market policy research organization.  Howard and Brandon discuss the 91 million tax-payer dollars recently bestowed upon Oklahoma’s education system.  Brandon says that it is sheer folly to keep giving more money to this ‘failed government monopoly.’

Take a look at the numbers in Brandon Dutcher’s article for OCPA on the issue;  Oklahoma’s monopoly education system gets more money

Amanda Teegarden, Exec. Dir. OK-SAFE

We are also very pleased to welcome back Amanda Teegarden, the Executive Director of OK-SAFE, Inc. (Oklahomans for Sovereignty and Free Enterprise).

They say nothing happens by accident in politics and I am beginning to believe that this is true.   In the legislative process at least, I’m ready to vouch for it.  Amanda is going to shed some light on the process by examining two recent pieces of legislation that caused some confusion and controversy.   I think you will find this peek behind the curtain very interesting.

I will be sure to add any relevant links and articles after the show.

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Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty Live! Drones, Biometric Scans, Raid and Common Core – NOT OK Oklahoma!

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*****Show Notes Below*****

Kaye Beach

April 26, 2013

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Tonight on Axxiom For Liberty with Kaye Beach and Howard Houchen – Drones, Biometric Scans, Raid and Common Core – NOT OK Oklahoma!

Howard and I are going to be catching up on some Oklahoma news items that will be of great interest to liberty lovers.

We are going to talk to Dax Ewbank about the FDA and the FBI raiding a Tulsa alternative cancer care clinic, discuss how a new hospital biometric identification system is causing problems for some conscientious employees and catch up on what is going on with the drones in Oklahoma.  We will also get an update on the Oklahoma push back against Common Core from Jenni White, Exec. Director of Restore Oklahoma Public Education.

And we want to hear from you!  Call us at 512-646-1984

 **************************Show Notes*********************

We spoke with Sam Bass whose wife Yvonne’s treatment was interrupted because of the FDA/FBI raid on Camelot Cancer Care, and asked how we could help.

Here is a link to the website where you can support Yvonne http://www.youcaring.com/medical-fundraiser/help-a-wonderful-mom-and-friend-naturally-finish-off-her-battle-with-cancer-/52172/update/39324

Keep up with all the anti-Common Core activities here – Restore Oklahoma Public Education -ROPE – on Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Restore-Oklahoma-Public-Education/116011401766695?fref=ts



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A Distinguishing Discussion with the Candidates for OK GOP Chair

Kaye Beach
April 14, 2013

On Friday’s (April 14, 2013) AxXiom For Liberty radio show Howard and I spoke to Amanda Teegarden and Dave Weston, both candidates for Oklahoma state Republican Chair.

The OK GOP Convention will be held this Friday and Saturday. Details here
(If you care to listen to our discussion with Teegarden and Weston, here is the audio clip from that segment of the show.
In the interest of transparency I want to disclose that I support and have given my endorsement to Amanda Teegarden. I also did my best to treat both our guests in an equal and fair manner. Both candidates have my respect.

(You can find out more about the candidates, Dave Weston here and Amanda Teegarden here )

The following is a text based dust up of the discussion we had with the candidates from Friday’s show.

We began by introducing both candidates, giving highlights from their campaign web bio’s Howard then invited them each to give us 2 1/2 minutes on what they wanted Republican voters in Oklahoma to know about them and why they were running.

Dave Weston

said that we are at a critical point in our nation and we have to be sure that we can back five Republican Congressman and a send back conservative Senator to DC US Congress so that we can ensure Oklahoma values are preserved and we can hold Obama at bay.

Weston touched upon state concerns saying that “We’ve also got to be able to do what we can on the state level to use the powers of nullification- I know that is a hot button- to hold back basically, what I consider to be the encroachment of the federal government upon our state and upon our citizens”

Dave Weston emphasized the importance of fundraising.

“We have to establish a base, a foundation” says Weston drawing analogy with the Calgary tower in Canada that stands 626 feet high, and weighs about 12,000 tons with 7 of those tons being concentrated at the base of the tower located underground.

 “When you have a foundation like that you can go way up high and you can do really well”  “The foundation for politics is fundraising”   He says he hopes to build upon the foundation already established within the Republican Party noting that “we’ve raised a lot of money in the past and money is the mother’s milk of politics”

Policy is also important says Weston “but without the foundation in place the policy is not going to get us very far because we have the people elected that are going to be able to enact that policy”

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Amanda Teegarden began by speaking  about her work over the past 8 years to “educate, advocate and lobby the Oklahoma state legislature”   She  says that the Oklahoma grassroots has done well in their party political efforts and have been very successful in getting Republicans elected in the state.  But still, something is not quite right.

“There’s a disconnect” says Teegarden.

She explains that it was during the process of educating herself which included spending time at the capitol directly observing the policy making that she realized “that what the press releases say and how the party is being marketed to the public compared to what we are actually doing legislatively with those policies and the changes that are taking place, there’s a disconnect.”

Addressing that “disconnect between what’s being said and what’s being done” is of great importance to her.

Teegarden notes that she has a proven track record of bringing people together, educating them on the issues encouraging them to participate in the political process “so that we can enjoy proper representation.”  She vows to continue that work as OK GOP Chair.

On the issue of fundraising, she agrees with Weston that it is important noting that the state GOP has “fortunately been blessed with many people who have that skillset.  What is missing in Republican leadership, she says, is somebody who also understands policy and can bring that understanding level of accountability to the office”

I get to ask the first question of our candidates and my question is an open one.  I ask; What do you think is the biggest problem or stumbling block that exists within our GOP and what do we have to do fix that, to improve?”

Dave Weston says that he doesn’t believe that Republicans need to change their message.  Using the example of Scott Walker Wisconsin, Weston says it is apparent that “conservatism as it is still sells. . .Conservatism is the best way to govern best way to live best way for people to have moral values to have a moral government and so I don’t believe that we need to change anything as far as out messaging goes

“What we do need to do is improve the delivery of our message”

Weston says we were “out-executed” on the national level in the presidential election but says that ultimately the fact that many Republicans “chose to be frustrated and stay home” is the reason that we now have Barack Obama as president.

Amanda Teegarden says that she thinks the biggest problem is that, the policies that are currently being advanced . . .are running contrary to what our platform says we are about”

She says that the problem is not that our message is wrong but that tactics are being used to try and force people to accept what is essentially pablum in place of red meat.  Teegarden points to the selection of weak candidates in 2008 and 2012 as a big part of the problem.

Next, Howard wants to know how we going to bring in minorities and young people into the Republican part.

“What are we going to do to grab a hold of these groups that we are missing in the Republican Party?” He asks the candidates.

Dave Weston:  “As far as minorities are concerned, we need to quit calling them ‘minorities’  in my opinion, it is ‘ethnic outreach,’ number one so we’ve got to change the verbiage and we’ve got to treat them like they are regular people and reach out to them.”

Weston says he is encouraged by the efforts of one Oklahoma Republican Women’s club in attending Naturalization ceremonies on the 29th of each month.  He says they now signed up over 50 new republicans

Regarding the youth, Weston says that “our biggest detriment is that our meetings are boring” Boring meetings and disagreeing in a disagreeable fashion are the two biggest reasons why people don’t come back around.”


Amanda Teegarden says she agrees that we have to do more to reach these people and that she believes that having a party that stands on principle is attractive to these groups.

In the case of immigrants, Teegarden says that this is what they came to this country for; “. . .to enjoy the freedoms and liberty” this she says is the impression they have of the United States that brought them here.  “Immigrants, she says, would be naturally gravitating to the party that stands on principle.”

Amanda Teegarden says that she has actively pursued engagement with young conservatives.  For example, the recent Nathan Dahm for Senate campaign that she worked on.  Teegarden holds Nathan Dahm up as an example of a young candidate that is a true conservative and says that it is evident that there are young people that are willing to get engaged and that  she has actively pursued engagement with these young conservatives.

Next, I wanted to see what these two candidates thought about the controversial changes to the RNC rules even as I expressed my uncertainty that the question might be a rather moot point. (Moot because the Spring RNC meeting where this issue was being  addressed ended on Friday, the same day this show was airing and the fate of the unpopular rule changes from last Fall had presumably been decided already.   For some background in this issue follow this link )

I asked,   “What ideas do you have about fixing, if you think it is a problem,  the RNC adopted rule changes from the last RNC convention that basically in a lot of ways strips states parties of their power and control over convention delegates  what is your opinion on that and do you propose we do about it?”

Dave Weston says “Well, I mean, we seem to revert back to where we were before.   I think there are a lot of people who feel that that is an overreach.”

Weston goes on to say that it is his understanding that our GOP National Committeeman, Steve Fair is going to meeting where he will seek to get the rule changed.

(At the recent Spring RNC meeting held April 10th – 13th, Morton Blackwell led the charge to reverse the controversial 2012 RNC rule change that served to shift the balance of power within the GOP even further to the top.  It is reported that Steve Fair did indeed cast his vote in favor of reversing the rule change which failed by a narrow margin.)

Amanda Teegarden first asks for me to clarify that I am referring to Rule 11 that was adopted at the 2012 convention in Florida.  I confirm that Rule 11 is what I am referencing.

**Note: Here is another instance of my well known handicap with numbers surfacing.   Rule 11 was, in fact, the subject of controversy preceding the 2012 RNC convention but really I was referring to the RNC “power grab” rule changes.  Maybe I will get a little sympathy since these rules were renumbered at least once during last year’s battle over them.  In any event, Amanda connected with substance of the problems with these rules despite my bungling.  My apologies for the confusion**

Amanda Teegarden responded that the rule controversy served the purpose of helping the social conservatives and liberty group realize that the problem it was not one another rather, “It was the top down control effort on the part of the establishment to control the outcome,”

And stated unequivocally that that the rule “. . .needs to be overturned.”

“The Republican Party is supposed to be the Party from the grassroots up, from the bottom up, not a top down Party, that is what its tradition is and  in order to do that we have to have as much latitude as possible and freedom to choose our candidate as a state. . .”


With only about a minute or so left in segment, Howard gave Weston and Teegarden each 30 seconds to give their closing thoughts beginning with Dave Weston.

Dave Weston said that he just wanted to point out one difference between Amanda and himself and stated, “I do not want to subvert the will of the people at the ballot box.”

“I voted for Rick Santorum and Huckabee in the two previous presidential primary preference election but I don’t understand . . . obviously we can probably change the selection process somewhat, but don’t understand how you can go against the rules, we are talking about rules all the time and yet you are talking about going against the rules of not supporting the nominee and because of that we have Pres. Obama in office.”


At this point, Howard hands the floor to Amanda for her 30 second final thoughts and Weston continues concluding with “and that is not a good place for the GOP chairman to be in.”

Amanda Teegarden“It is the right of the people to reject the rules that was an unfair rule that was put into place and is currently being mischaracterized as what its intent and I believe that the core principles of the Republican Party are expressed in our platform and our public official should be held accountable to the platform and we should encourage them as a party and party officials to stand up for it and if I am elected as Chair that is what I intend to do”

Dave Weston interjects “Amanda you are saying our elections are illegal?”

Amanda Teegarden: “No.  I am not saying our elections are illegal”

With seconds to spare Howard and I close the show.

The comments made by Weston at the end are a head scratcher for me.  He insinuates that Amanda believes in subverting the will of the people at the ballot box and subverting rules.  I wish we had of had more time so that these points could have been clarified but there are at least two opportunities to hear these candidates speak and ask questions prior to the State GOP Convention.

Tulsa 912 meeting

Thursday, April 18th 6:30pm

Spirit Life Church (Evangelistic Temple) Destination Kids Building

5345 South Peoria Avenue Tulsa, OK 74105-6819

The High Noon Club

Friday, April 19th at 12 noon

H&H Shooting Sports, 400 S Vermont Ave #110 Oklahoma City, OK 73108

Tonight on AxXiom For Liberty Live! OK State GOP Chair Candidates and Documentarian Debbie Lewis

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AxXiom For Liberty Live!  Fridays 6-8 PM Central
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We have a great show lined up for you tonight!

Guests: Amanda Teegarden and David Weston-OK candidates for state GOP Char and Debbie Lewis, independent researcher, freelance writer and photographer and documentary writer for the new film Peddling Influence as well as other great documentaries.

Oklahoma Republicans are just days away from their annual state convention. This year the top order of business is electing new party officers including the state GOP Chair. First up tonight Howard and I will be speaking with the two candidates vying for that position- Amanda Teegarden and David Weston.

Amanda Teegarden

Amanda Teegarden has announced her candidacy for the State Chair of the Oklahoma Republican Party.
Teegarden’s experience in grassroots education and activism convinced
her that “the only way to solve our current crisis is to truly become
the party of the people. Oklahoma has a strong history of populism,
based upon self-reliance, neighborliness, community and civic
involvement that accounts for the unique character so many people admire
in our citizens,”.

“That means making our precincts active enterprises for education and activism. The precinct is the smallest political unit in the nation and the most important. American government is designed to flow from the individual up to the precinct and beyond.  We need to actively encourage participation in these neighborhood areas so we can help citizens restore good government to our cities, counties, state and nation,”.


David Weston

Why I’m running…
I see two challenges which threaten our future. The first is complacency. We cannot afford to replace optimism with contentment. As has been said: “The arrogance of success is to think that what we did yesterday is good enough for tomorrow.” The second is discord. We can fight each other for control while our adversary marches on, or we can come together and work to achieve common goals. As Sallust explained: “Small communities grow great through harmony, great ones fall to pieces through discord.” To keep moving forward, we must grant each other the grace of a short-term memory when we have been offended. This is why I’m running for OKGOP Chair.


Next up, a lady I admire very much, Debbie Lewis.  We will be discussing the new documentary Peddling Influence a William Lewis Films production written by Debbie Lewis.

The Lies, Deception and Dollars, New Film Reveals Dark Side of Media
Debbie Lewis      

Columbia, MO, March 1, 2013 – In a country where deceit has become the norm, shouldn’t we expect our mainstream media to expose the deception rather than cover it up?  Day in and day out our news and information coverage is spun in such a sinister way that we cannot trust what we see and hear.  And we know it…just take a look at the polls regarding media trustworthiness.  How did this nation go from the desire of a Free Press to a “bought and paid for” media?  Peddling Influence may have the answer.  Read More      

For more information, to view the teasers and to acquire your copy of Peddling Influence, visit William Lewis Films

More about Debbie Lewis;

Debbie Lewis is a concerned mother, independent researcher, freelance writer
and amateur photographer troubled with the obvious lack of representation in our government and the suppression of truth in the mainstream media.  Lewis does research for William Lewis Films productions, has written three feature length documentaries, Peddling Influence, Blood of Patriots and The Ron Paul Uprising and co-wrote Enemy of the State: Camp FEMA Part 2.  Her articles are featured in the international publication Namaste Magazine and the national publications Survivalist and The Sovereign and they appear at several locations on the web, including www.TakeBackWashington.com and www.SecuringLiberty.com.

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Friday on AxXiom For Liberty Live – Lucas Catton,Colin Henderson on Narconon Arrowhead

Friday March 29th on AxXiom For Liberty with Kaye Beach and Howard Houchen

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On Friday, Lucas Catton former president of Narconon Arrowhead, author of ‘Have You Told All?’, and our good friend Colin Henderson will be catching us up on the remarkable happenings at Narconon Arrowhead Scientology’s flagship rehab facility in located here in Oklahoma.

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Lucas Catton

Catton came out of the shadows in the wake of the 3 Narconon patient deaths in a 9 month span that have led to criminal investigations and civil lawsuits against Narconon Arrowhead.

‘It was Catton who explained to us that Scientology officials have spent considerable resources lobbying and schmoozing state officials, worried that they would take a hard look at Narconon Arrowhead’s certification.

“When I left in 2006, they were eagerly trying to get some type of amicable relationship with the Department of Mental Health,” he says.’  . . . “They were worried that they had to get their entire program certified by the state, or get the law changed, or they would not be allowed to operate at all,” .  . .The Village Voice, August 18, 2012 http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/08/scientology_lucas_catton_narconon.php

Gabriel Graves,32,  Hillary Holten, 21,  and Stacy Murphy, 20 years old all died at the Narconon Arrowhead facility. Read more Narconon Rehab Deaths

Lucas Catton also recently published a book on his experiences as a Scientologist and the figurehead and PR specialist at Narconon Arrowhead called ‘Have You Told All?’


NBC’s Rock Center did a feature on Narconon Arrowhead last August and will be airing  a very powerful piece on April 5th at 10pm EST/9PM CST featuring Lucas Catton and former staff member at Narconon, Eric Tenorio.  There will be a promo during the Rock Center’s show Friday March 29th show.

Axxiom For Liberty has been covering NN Arrowhead, the largest Narconon facility in the United States, since 2010 prior to the tragic deaths of at least 3 young people who were seeking help for their addictions that has set off a firestorm of media activity.

Much thanks to the sincere and tireless efforts of Colin Henderson who since his own dangerous experience with the facility in 2007, has been trying to warn others not to seek help there.

Here are just a few of the recent news items on Narconon Arrowhead;

-Legislation to curtail the dangerous practices at NN has been filed and has passed the Senate

Oklahoma Drug Rehab Bill Passes Senate: Scientology’s Narconon Days Numbered?

. . .history showed that the state had resisted Scientology’s plan to open the large rehab center in the late 1980s, and refused to grant it a license. But Scientology found a loophole in the law that allowed them to open based on a certification by a national nonprofit organization, bypassing state regulators.

In his bill, Ivester is trying to close that loophole.

Read more TonyOrtega.com

5 new suits have been filed against Narconon Arrowhead

“Narconon Arrowhead’s program “has the appearance of being nothing more than a pyramid scheme and sham” that operates to extort money while acting as a recruiting tool for the Church of Scientology, according to one of the lawsuits filed Thursday in Pittsburg County District Court. ”

Suits Claim Narconon Arrowhead Drugs-For-Sex Trade

National counseling certification has been revoked for CEO, staff members of Oklahoma drug rehab Narconon Arrowhead

March 9, 2013

McALESTER, Okla. (AP) — Narconon Arrowhead’s top executive and several of his employees have had a counseling certification revoked by the National Association of Forensic Counselors, officials say.
Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/narconon-officials-lose-counseling-certifications#ixzz2OfpR2hhj

And this is nothing new but something parents might want to watch out for, Narconon continues to do anti-drug presentations in public schools;

March 18, 2013

ASHER, Oklahoma –

Several parents say they are concerned over an anti-drug presentation at their school. The organization making the presentation and handing out literature is the controversial Narconon Arrowhead, which News 9 has been investigating here for several months.  Read more at NewsOn6

The curriculum provided by Narconon for grade and high school students is linked in the News 6 article and seems to diverge from scientific understanding of human biology.  This was a point of contention in California over Narconon’s anti-drug presentation to public school kids.

Schools urged to drop antidrug program / Scientology-linked teachings inaccurate, superintendent says

February 23, 2005

State Superintendent Jack O’Connell urged all California schools on Tuesday to drop the Narconon antidrug education program after a new state evaluation concluded that its curriculum offers inaccurate and unscientific information.


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Restore Oklahoma Public Education – ROPE

A brief list of Common Core educational materials

Here is a link to our one page information sheet called, “What Oklahomans Need To Know About Common Core State Standards“.  If you’re not in Oklahoma and wish to have something more generic, please use this handout from our friends at the Truth in American Education website.

Here is the paper that really helped to spread the word about CCSS, “Common Core State Standards, An Introduction To Marxism 101”  This should help you put the background together on where the Common Core came from – it’s political background and who’s behind the push.

For those of you interested also in the data collection aspect, our paper, “How Much Data Is Enough Data? What happens to privacy when bureaucracies exceed their scope?” might be of interest.  We also have another one page information sheet called, “What Oklahomans Need To Know About The P20 Council” that you can hand out to those seeking information.

Candidate Promises Statue of Free Cheese in Norman, OK March 28, 2013, The American Thinker

‘David Kempf for Mayor’  on Facebook

Friday on AxXiom For Liberty Live! Miles Kinard, Author, American Stasi: Fusion Centers and Domestic Spying.

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March, 21, 2013

This Friday on AxXiom For Liberty with Kaye Beach and Howard Houchen 6-8pm Central – Miles Kinard author of the magazine exposé, American Stasi: Fusion Centers and Domestic Spying.

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“This is no longer just a ‘surveillance state.’  We are on the fast track to a police state.” -Miles Kinard, interview with the Spingola Files, Dec. 2012

We are very excited to introduce you to Miles Kinard, researcher and author of the magazine exposé, American Stasi: Fusion Centers and Domestic Spying.

What is a Fusion Center?

The principal role of the fusion center is to compile, analyze, and disseminate criminal/terrorist information and intelligence and other information (including, but not limited to, threat, public safety, law enforcement, public health, social services, and public works) to support efforts to anticipate, identify, prevent, and/or monitor criminal/terrorist activity.   http://www.scribd.com/doc/19251638/Fusion-Center-Guidelines-Law-Enforcement

I jumped on Mr. Kinard’s work on fusion centers last year when it was released and found his writing on the subject to be extremely lucid and his research, impeccable.  You can get it for a song and instant download at Amazon.com


Miles Kinard’s work explores these secretive 9/11 domestic intelligence units that are considered key by the Department of Homeland Security in its quest to know everything about everybody all the time.

There is at least one of these relatively new intelligence centers located in every state (74 78 total) and precious little attention has been given to them by the mainstream media.

Secrecy, the waste of taxpayer dollars and especially the potential civil liberties violations were highlighted by Kinard’s work.  All of this and more was subsequently confirmed by a two-year bipartisan investigation by the U. S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations which released a 107 page report last October.

Tonight we will get a chance to talk to Miles about the state fusion centers as part of what he refers to as the “Surveillance Industrial Complex” in general and discuss the implications of these state-based (but federally controlled) spy centers that he identified in his exposé .

Join us – Your questions or comments are always welcome!

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Restore Oklahoma Public Education (R.O.P.E.)

Common Core is NOT OK!” Events

  • Wed., March 27th:   Common Core is NOT OK! Rally State Capitol, 2nd floor rotunda (Supreme Court hallway), Noon  Click here for rally info.
  • Thurs., March 28th:  State Board of Education meeting Oliver Hodge Educ. Bldg., room I-20, 9:30 a.m., Meeting instructions.

“The Common Core State Standards present a takeover of public education by a small group of individuals. This takeover will change the way that teachers teach, parents interact with their schools due to loss of local control, and present students with a narrow range of studies and increased standardized testing. Oklahomans must maintain local control over public education, therefore, we reject the Common Core State Standards.”  Read More from ROPE

FERPA, Amendemnts


April 5 & 6, 2013, Tulsa 9.12 will host a symposium on “Understanding Agenda 21.” Rosa Koire, author of “Behind the Green Mask” and founding member of Democrats Against Agenda 21, will be one of our many speakers. If you would like to learn more about Agenda 21 and how it affects you, please plan on joining us.

Understanding Agenda 21 – A Symposium  (You can RSVP on Facebook but Registration must be received by April 1st  REGISTER HERE


Testimony of Jennifer Lynch,  Electronic Frontier Foundation(EFF), Senate Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Privacy, Technology, and the Law, July 18, 2012

What Facial Recognition Technology Means for Privacy and Civil Liberties 

The Militarization of U.S. Domestic Policing

 Abigail R. Hall and Christopher J. Coyne
This paper develops the political economy of the militarization of domestic policing.
We analyze the mechanisms through which the “protective state”—where the government utilizes its monopoly on force to protect citizens’ rights—devolves into a “predatory state” which undermines the rights of the populace. We apply our theory to the U.S.,where we trace the(failed) historical attempts to establish constraints nto separate the military functions and policing functions of government.
In doing so we emphasize the role of crises in the form of perpetual wars—the “War on Drugs” and the “War on Terror”—in the accelerated militarization of domestic policing.

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